I was very disappointed by the PM’s announcement to purchase a destructive pipeline project with our tax dollars. Much worse, he is now hell-bent on forcing the project through despite the protests of those most affected with the promise of a few dozen jobs. The 2nd rubber-stamp approval came barely 24 hrs before his own gov’t admitted that we are in a climate catastrophe, which the coming bitumen spill, should the project come to completion (and there will be a spill, mark my words) will only make worse.
Trudeau’s “leadership” has been a disappointment and his words about “Sunny Ways” ring hollow to those whose futures he dismisses so easily.
Shanon Sinn Fenske commented
2019-07-03 18:48:33 -0700
The message I sent to them…
Hello,
I listened to all of the audio files of the consultation process with the coastal First Nations, both the collectives and individual nations.
These were the nations who were never properly consulted before, which was why the court stopped the work, as you know.
Every nation and individual – one exception I’ll come back to – were strongly opposed to the additional tanker traffic. They were pleading, sometimes even crying (for real) … hard to listen to… because the current tanker traffic is destroying their food sources and culture. Elders, scientists, teachers, fisherman, politicians… all of them. Every last one. All these extra tankers will devastate their communities. Unless someone there determined they were all untruthful. Even without a spill, the traffic will be life changing.
The only exception in this testimony was the one So’lo collective – which is further up the Fraser River – who said they would support the project only if they could monitor it.
There are errors in your transcripts vs. audio recordings. I believe intentional. There were also Indigenous people who “represent no nation” brought in to testify to make it confusing for anyone paying attention – to appear there is a divide in consensus. The board members didn’t even know how to pronounce the names of the real nations.
I know a lot of money is involved, but if this was an ethical project these tactics would not be used. Something so big that can ruin lives for generations should be handled more professionally and honestly. I know some of the people who testified personally and it breaks my heart to know how they were treated.
Thank you for listening.
Shanon Fenske
Douglas Jackson commented
2019-07-03 12:55:56 -0700
Trying the same tactics over and over again to achieve a different result is surely the definition of insane. Here’s the first sentence of law.com’s lengthy definition: “Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality, cannot conduct her/his affairs due to psychosis, or is subject to uncontrollable impulsive behavior” …remind you of anyone?
We keep going around and around on the TM and the only thing that has changed is that the threats of disastrous climate change have increased.
And by the way Mr. Prime Minister, when you say you’ve purchased something (a pipeline) one would actually have to pay for it with their own money to claim ownership, all you have done is taken taxpayers money without permission and committed taxpayers to further billions of dollars without their consent to a project hundreds of thousands of Canadian’s DO NOT support. Regardless of suspect polls that show all kinds of public support from Canadians eager to continue adding to the planets increasing climate crisis I find it highly unlikely you would find enough Canadians to fill a bus (outside of Alberta) that would be willing to risk their children’s futures by adding to the climate problem, except you and your minions.
The real, true, human/planet-valuable resources are fresh water, good soil, and healthy fisheries. Keep the tar sands in the ground. No destroying water/land to extract it, transport it over land and water ways, and no further destruction of the BC coast. BC’s coast is a complex of passageways, islands and inlets – it cannot accommodate a high number of tankers – not for bitumen/dilbit, not for LNG. We must think of the future, and use our energy, actions and money to protect our water, soil, air and fisheries. No subsidizing of the fossile fuel industry to create short-term profits for a few.
Marg. Hall commented
2019-07-03 08:28:15 -0700
The idea of continuing with the trans mountain pipeline makes a mockery of the apparent understanding that we are in the midst of a climate disaster. Floods, tornadoes, killing heat waves, droughts, wild fires all give controvertible emphasis to this fact. Why should corporate profit be allowed to put our civilization into further peril. Stop this endeavour NOW!!
Yani Tang commented
2019-07-03 07:37:07 -0700
We don’t have the technology to ensure that there will be no leaking, or when disasters strike (the West Coast is waiting for the “big one”), the bitumen will not destroy our environment and pollute precious water and wildlife. NO TO PIPELINES!
Leo MacDougall commented
2019-07-02 23:30:42 -0700
This is a Koruptonic issue, which means it is corruption based. Corruption is the collusion between power and money to realize profit.
Big Oil supplies the money. Trudeau supplies the power. His power comes from the power of the individual vote surrendered to the politician, which corrupts that politician. Absolutely.
Corruption allows the politician to support a pipeline to poison and pollute our Planet for profit. Corruption does not like other proposals, such as Proposal AOS (Alternative Oil Solution), which provides three times as many jobs as TMX, not just temporary jobs, but permanent jobs with no pipelines, and no profit for Justin or Big Oil. But it does bring Prosperity to the people.
The solution is simple. We follow the Process of Democracy.
Proposal AOS follows the Process of Democracy, where the potential uses for oil will be the issue identified by the government (Elected Members who are government administrators). The Electorate, the core of Democracy, will submit proposals. The Proposal is the vision of Democracy.The Electorate will vote on proposals. The Electorate will decide the issue with a referendum, the backbone of Democracy. This would take about 60 days, and no lawyers.
Suppose Trudeau, and all politicians, had no power… where would money go? Nowhere. Where does the pipeline go? Same place… nowhere.
It is the great number of Peacemakers that removes the power of the politician. Peacemakers never surrender the power of their vote to anyone.
The first 10,000 Peacemakers will stop Trans Mountain in its tracks.
More can be found here… www.nstukbridge.com
Mark Benson commented
2019-07-02 21:10:02 -0700
As a resident of the Southern Gulf Islands, I am extremely concerned about the increased tanker traffic and spill risk of a substance that cannot be cleaned up. My livelihood and that of many other in our community is dependent on the natural environment for income but also our entire lifestyle. Bitumen is a shrinking market. Green alternatives are becoming available at an accelerating pace. Rather than investing waning technology with high environmental footprint and risk, we need to invest in blooming green alternatives and become a leader in these energies.
Andrew Atrens commented
2019-07-02 19:58:50 -0700
If ever there were an issue that is non-partisan, climate emergency should be it. And yet the people we elect smash on it with Adler’s hammers as though it were a partisan nail. Shameful? Yes. Also suicidal. You can’t negotiate with Mother Nature, she simply reacts to your actions.
Kim DeLagran commented
2019-07-02 19:02:43 -0700
To the NEB , It is my belief that another pipeline which would triple the amount of tar sands bitumen sent to the coast is a direct threat against my children and grandchildren and their ability to live on this planet.
Increasing the amount of carbon based fuels available for burning in light of the Climate Crisis – Emergency is madness and suicidal.
If Canada was following its international commitments to carbon reduction we would be ramping down the tar sands and trying to deal with the massive poisonous tailings ponds that already exist.
Moving more tàr oil equals more environmental disaster potential inland on rivers and lakes and on the coast to the ocean and All sea life.
I am angry that Canadians now own the existing pipeline and would like to see it shut down.
Sincerely, Kim deLagran Utterson Ont P0B1MO
Marie Lloyd commented
2019-07-02 18:59:45 -0700
The Coast Protectors have my heart and my allegiance. Marie in Kingston, Ontario
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Trudeau’s “leadership” has been a disappointment and his words about “Sunny Ways” ring hollow to those whose futures he dismisses so easily.
Hello,
I listened to all of the audio files of the consultation process with the coastal First Nations, both the collectives and individual nations.
These were the nations who were never properly consulted before, which was why the court stopped the work, as you know.
Every nation and individual – one exception I’ll come back to – were strongly opposed to the additional tanker traffic. They were pleading, sometimes even crying (for real) … hard to listen to… because the current tanker traffic is destroying their food sources and culture. Elders, scientists, teachers, fisherman, politicians… all of them. Every last one. All these extra tankers will devastate their communities. Unless someone there determined they were all untruthful. Even without a spill, the traffic will be life changing.
The only exception in this testimony was the one So’lo collective – which is further up the Fraser River – who said they would support the project only if they could monitor it.
There are errors in your transcripts vs. audio recordings. I believe intentional. There were also Indigenous people who “represent no nation” brought in to testify to make it confusing for anyone paying attention – to appear there is a divide in consensus. The board members didn’t even know how to pronounce the names of the real nations.
I know a lot of money is involved, but if this was an ethical project these tactics would not be used. Something so big that can ruin lives for generations should be handled more professionally and honestly. I know some of the people who testified personally and it breaks my heart to know how they were treated.
Thank you for listening.
Shanon Fenske
We keep going around and around on the TM and the only thing that has changed is that the threats of disastrous climate change have increased.
And by the way Mr. Prime Minister, when you say you’ve purchased something (a pipeline) one would actually have to pay for it with their own money to claim ownership, all you have done is taken taxpayers money without permission and committed taxpayers to further billions of dollars without their consent to a project hundreds of thousands of Canadian’s DO NOT support. Regardless of suspect polls that show all kinds of public support from Canadians eager to continue adding to the planets increasing climate crisis I find it highly unlikely you would find enough Canadians to fill a bus (outside of Alberta) that would be willing to risk their children’s futures by adding to the climate problem, except you and your minions.
Big Oil supplies the money. Trudeau supplies the power. His power comes from the power of the individual vote surrendered to the politician, which corrupts that politician. Absolutely.
Corruption allows the politician to support a pipeline to poison and pollute our Planet for profit. Corruption does not like other proposals, such as Proposal AOS (Alternative Oil Solution), which provides three times as many jobs as TMX, not just temporary jobs, but permanent jobs with no pipelines, and no profit for Justin or Big Oil. But it does bring Prosperity to the people.
The solution is simple. We follow the Process of Democracy.
Proposal AOS follows the Process of Democracy, where the potential uses for oil will be the issue identified by the government (Elected Members who are government administrators). The Electorate, the core of Democracy, will submit proposals. The Proposal is the vision of Democracy.The Electorate will vote on proposals. The Electorate will decide the issue with a referendum, the backbone of Democracy. This would take about 60 days, and no lawyers.
Suppose Trudeau, and all politicians, had no power… where would money go? Nowhere. Where does the pipeline go? Same place… nowhere.
It is the great number of Peacemakers that removes the power of the politician. Peacemakers never surrender the power of their vote to anyone.
The first 10,000 Peacemakers will stop Trans Mountain in its tracks.
More can be found here… www.nstukbridge.com
Increasing the amount of carbon based fuels available for burning in light of the Climate Crisis – Emergency is madness and suicidal.
If Canada was following its international commitments to carbon reduction we would be ramping down the tar sands and trying to deal with the massive poisonous tailings ponds that already exist.
Moving more tàr oil equals more environmental disaster potential inland on rivers and lakes and on the coast to the ocean and All sea life.
I am angry that Canadians now own the existing pipeline and would like to see it shut down.
Sincerely, Kim deLagran Utterson Ont P0B1MO